Who Is the Holy Spirit? – Part 2 | Joyce Meyer | Enjoying Everyday Life Teaching

Do you want to be led by the Holy Spirit but you’re not sure how that works? Today on Enjoying Everyday Life, Joyce Meyer joins Ginger and Erin for a conversation that will help you understand and be encouraged by the Holy Spirit.

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But to be able to know that even in the midst of a terrible circumstance, the Holy Spirit has come because I invited him to, and he’s he’s walking my whole family step by step.
Well, how many people watching today need comfort? Mhmm. Yeah.
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Today, the second part of our discussion on the Holy Spirit that we began yesterday, it’s a practical eye opening look into something that can be a bit confusing and sometimes even divisive, but that’s not what god wants.
Joyce, Erin Clearly, and I discussed from a a talk out podcast how the Holy Spirit works in our lives.
And the wonderful things he offers us once we allow him to lead us, he is such a benefit to us.
And I really think you’re going to enjoy this, but more than that, it could change a lot for you.
So take a look. I love that so much that the Holy Spirit gives us what we don’t know Right.
And helps us not to do the wrong things, to do the right things, but but your question was such a good one.
Are you willing to let the Holy Spirit tinker with you?
Yeah. You know? Are you willing to let him guide you? You know, I’ve been reading a book.
I’ve never I gave you a copy of it too. It’s like what different evangelicals believed.
About the Holy Spirit.
Oh, interesting.
And, uh, it is interesting because there was a wide variety of beliefs.
Now they all believed that we needed the Holy Spirit, some believe that you got everything when you were born again.
Some lot of people believe in what they called a second blessing, and I’ve I’m gonna got a couple of scriptures I wanna read in a minute.
You know, the the disciples were born again, and receive the Holy Spirit, but then Jesus told them to go wait in the upper room until they receive the power from on high.
So they received the Holy Spirit when they were born again, but they weren’t filled with the Holy Spirit until the day of Pentecost.
And I I’ve got scripture to back it up.
But in the in that book, This is what Ian Bounds said about how to describe the Holy Spirit.
Ian Bounds said the anointing is that indefinable, indescribable something, which pierces the heart because it comes immediately from the lord.
Some call it unction. Anointing gives the words of the preacher point, sharpness, and power, and stirs many a dead congregation it gives him or her directness and simplicity of utterance.
So I’m talking about the anointing because when you have the Holy Spirit, it’s the Holy Spirit that anoints you, and that anointing is literally the presence and the power of god in your life.
And, you know, we don’t need dead religion.
We don’t need just a bunch of rules and regulations and you know, just a bunch of nothing but doctrine.
I mean, we we all need good sound solid doctrine. But people need to know how to live.
They need to know how to get through Monday, Tuesday, how to raise their kids, how to survive what going on in the world today, and we need every gift the Holy Spirit has god.
And the Bible says he gives them as he wills, but I believe that we can all experience all the gifts of the Holy Spirit at different times in our life as we need them.
Mhmm. And so what are you saying we don’t need to stress out about which one we have No.
Or are given? No. Just because I think I just wanna take whatever it is he wants to give me.
That’s up to god. Yeah. You know, and it’s and it says it’s for the good and the profit of all.
Now when I came into the baptism of Holy Spirit, it was back in the seventies when there was a big charismatic outpouring all across the earth.
And, I mean, in every denomination, people were being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
And to be honest, we were a little crazy. You know, it’s like I don’t know.
I guess it’s kinda like when you’re touched with fire for the first time, you can’t can’t be quiet.
Sure.
And, I got asked to leave my church that I was in because they said you’re either gonna have to be quiet or leave and being quiet wasn’t an option for me.
So I got the left foot of fellowship, but, uh, but we we don’t have to be crazy.
We don’t have to be fanatical.
You know, the holy spirit should be a normal part of our experience Yeah.
With god. I mean, you really can’t You you’re not teaching people the whole council of the word of god if you’re not teaching them.
The importance and the power of the Holy Spirit.
Let me just give you these 2 scriptures so I don’t forget them. John 2021 22.
Again, Jesus said peace be with you as the father has sent me, so I’m sending you.
And with that, he breathed on them and said, receive the Holy Spirit. That was the disciples.
Now the same men in acts 14 and then 5 through 8 says, and while being in their company and eating with him, he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the father had promised, of which he said you have heard me speak.
For John baptized with water, but not many days from now, you shall be baptized with and placed in introduced into the Holy Spirit.
And you shall receive power, ability, efficiency, and might when the Holy Spirit has come up on you, and you shall be my witnesses in Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria and to the ends of the earth.
So they he breathed on them as it received the Holy Spirit, I believe, excuse me, I believe that’s when they were born again, but then he told those same people to wait to be filled Mhmm.
With the Holy Spirit. So I’m not saying that you can’t be filled with the Holy Spirit at the same time you’re born again.
But I don’t think that’s just an assumption that we should make across the board.
That there’s no more?
Yeah. That A lot of a lot of people, if you noticed, I don’t know if you’ve read any of that book yet or not, but a lot of people called it the second blessing that you I mean, some of the great men of god believe that you had to have that second blessing that outpouring of the Holy Spirit, because What the baptism of the Holy Spirit is, just so everybody knows, it’s it’s given to you for service in the kingdom of god.
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit right before god called me to preach.
It’s not just a bunch of little gift to play around with or try to impress each other with.
It’s like Yeah. If you’re not ready to serve god
Yeah.
Then you don’t really need the Holy Spirit. Because you don’t have to be a preacher to serve god.
You just need to be a Christian that actually gets out in the world and acts like a Christian.
Yeah. You know, my experience was was different in some ways because I didn’t have that moment in the car where where everything came down.
And I I think it was because I was I was searching and and walking different steps and different paths all along.
And so I I would see more of the Holy Spirit active in my life.
And I remember long before anything else, I just I knew that I had the gift of faith and especially for healing.
And I I could pray for people and see healing in their life and just so exciting.
And yet, I felt like maybe something’s wrong because I for me, I I didn’t have the gift of speaking in tongues, and this was, you know, when I was in my early twenties.
Right. And I was like, why god would do you not love me the way you love them?
Is there some what’s in me that I need to fix.
And I think I just got so wrapped up in it that Yeah.
You know, that it was about me and it wasn’t about doing anything.
And so god got me at a time where I was just so broken over a loss that I had in my life.
Was just on the floor a crying mess, and the Holy Spirit came in.
And I cannot even explain to you the comfort. Yeah. And peace.
And, I mean, still now, it’s just so overwhelming to think about it.
And and then, you know, That is when I I began to speak differently and had that prayer language and things just it’s like god is saying, I don’t to do things the way you want me to do.
Right.
Everybody’s experience is different. Yeah. I’m pleased when everybody that’s watching today to understand that. Everybody’s experience is different.
And you don’t you don’t necessarily have to feel anything.
What what you need to watch for is the evidence of the Holy Spirit in your life.
You’ll see you’ll see the evidence. You’ll see yourself being able to do things that you couldn’t Absolutely.
Yeah. It can’t be just about emotion.
Mhmm. No. It can’t be. And the the scripture says in Luke 1113, If you being evil know how to give good gifts that are of advantage to your children, how much more will your heavenly father give the holy spirit to those who ask and continue to ask him.
I continued. That’s for sure.
Yeah. I’m just I’m just really I mean, I’ve got myself set.
You know, I’m I’m gonna be sharing this a lot in different ways because I’m just very concerned that the Holy spirit is just being ignored way too much, and he is so important in our everyday life.
He is he is, um, as as I’ve grown, like, out of high school and not leaving that church and just becoming a a wife and a mom, I’ve I’ve a new appreciation for what he what he brings to my life.
And I I have said that we’ve said that we’ve had this conversation with friends who don’t know about the Holy Spirit.
And so I’ll explain to them what my relationship with god is like and how important it is that I can have him.
And as I’m explaining this, I can see their faces, and they’re like, what are you?
What are you talking about? Yeah. Because people don’t understand what a gift it is to have him.
And to to be all consumed by him.
So many people just go to church. Yeah. And I’m not saying they don’t love god.
I’m not saying that they’re not born again.
I’m not saying they won’t go to heaven, but they don’t have a real deep personal.
Relationship with god. Mhmm.
I mean, I remember the night I was baptized in the Holy Spirit. I bowled on Friday nights.
And I was bowling really bad that night.
And, you know, after I was filled with the spirit, I started hearing god speak to me. Mhmm.
And not verbally out loud, but in my heart. Yeah.
And I heard the holy spirit say, why don’t you ask me to help you bowl?
And I thought, what? You don’t care about anybody’s bowling.
I’m not gonna ask you to help me bowl. And but I did, and I started bowling better. Yeah.
And I found out god cares about everything that concerns you. Everything.
I’m surprised you’re not on the Pro Tour now.
Yeah. She probably shouldn’t have time for it.
All in three hundred games all the time.
Oh, this morning when I did my hair, you know, I wanted my hair to look good for TV, and so I I prayed that god would help me get my hair curled right.
Yes. It worked. Yeah. You look great.
It didn’t look yes. You
look fantastic.
And so you you can pry by anything.
You don’t have to just pray for what you think the big things are.
God wants to be part of everything in your life.
Yeah. Let’s talk about some of those benefits of the Holy Spirit. Because it’s amazing.
Scripture backs all of this. That’s the most important thing.
He’s our strength, and that’s in Romans 826 He’s our advocate. He is there for us all the time.
That’s John 14. He’s our hope. Romans 55 He’s our peace. Philippians 47.
The list goes on and on and on. He’s our comforter when we need it.
And so That’s a big one. Yes. It is.
He’s actually called the helper, the pericletos in Greek. That’s the comforter and the helper.
Just think about that.
You have wonderful thing.
The the amplified Bible says he’s the standby. Yeah.
Which I love that that the Holy Spirit’s just standing by all the time.
Waiting for you to ask for his help.
That’s so great. I I have I just I’m going to have to share with what I’m walking through right now.
I’m gonna ask the Holy Spirit to tell me not cry because my lashes look really pretty, and I don’t want them to fall off.
You don’t want them to fall off.
So I’ll just blink a lot. But I am living out at everything you just said.
And, um, we’re going through a really hard family time, and we’re our our loved one is not doing well, and they’re in a hospital.
And so it’s my husband’s stepdad. So he’s in Oklahoma, and I’m here. Mhmm.
And he said, Erin, you stay with the kids.
Keep it Let’s keep as normal as we possibly can and I’ll go.
And so all week, it’s one a struggle of not being with him to support him.
2, I love this man who’s in the hospital. Don’t know what’s gonna happen.
And so I have the most peace.
Right.
And I I cannot explain. People keep asking, are you doing okay? Is there anything you need?
I mean, I do need a cookie. Told Ginger. I need a cookie, but
we took care of that.
Yeah. It was really good, man. But I can’t explain on the inside.
Like, it is like I’m wearing a blanket on the inside. Yeah. And, yes, I’m sad, and it’s hard.
And I and I don’t know the answers, but I do know that anytime I’ve tried to make a decision this week, like, when do I leave?
He has given me, um, very clearly in my spirit.
Now is not the time or, okay, now is time to go.
And I’m getting answers to things that I don’t know how to answer on my own.
And I’m getting strength to do this by myself this week while Mike’s gone, and I’m sad And he’s my advocate and, uh, a verse I read this morning.
I think I forgot the reference, but it says the mind governed by the flesh is death but the mind governed by the sphere is life and peace.
And, I mean, it’s real.
If It’s Romans 86.
Thank you. I knew I could count on you to know that. No, I
don’t know them all, but I knew that. You know, that was
a good one. But to be able to know that even in the midst of a terrible circumstance, the Holy Spirit has come because I invited him to, and he’s he’s walking my whole family step by step.
Well, how many people watching today need comfort?
Mhmm. Yeah.
You know, and and we run to people to comfort us.
And, I mean, that that’s all well and good, especially if it’s a Christian person that’s letting the Holy Spirit work through them.
We can comfort one another, and we should comfort one another.
Actually, what the scripture says in Corinthian is that we should receive the comfort of the Holy Spirit so we can comfort one another with the comfort we’ve received from him.
Yeah. And so.
Yeah. Yeah. Because now I know what it feels like, and I I have experienced what this is.
And so when somebody else is hurting, I I can know how to show them or point them to this is what Right.
Nobody else can help you. Nobody else can fill that hole or that hurt that you have inside of you, that pain, but the Holy Spirit can fill that up.
So, yeah, I love that verse.
Zechariah 46 says it’s not by might, not by power, but by my spirit, says the lord.
And so we we really have to learn to lean on and depend on the holy spirit.
You know, there was There was such a marked difference in the disciples after the day of Pentecost.
Peter, who denied Christ 3 times.
After the Holy Spirit flooded that upper room, he went out into the streets of Jerusalem and preached so boldly that 3 thousand souls were added to the church that one day.
So it it gives you courage. It gives you boldness. It gives you power.
Enables you to do things like Saul, says when the spirit of the lord came on him, he was turned into another man.
And and that’s literally like, I feel sometimes like when I go up on the platform to teach the word, Sometimes when I’m done, I’m like, was that really me?
Yeah.
You know, it’s like Mhmm. I said things I didn’t even know. Was that was that really me?
And so the holy spirit really can work through you in a powerful way, but it’s all about surrender.
You can’t run your own life and hit and let him run
it too. And after you have experiences like we all have, you realize pretty quickly that running your own life is not a success as you think it will be.
You know? Exactly. And and when you see the work of god in your life, when you see the Holy Spirit being active, you want more of it because it is so powerful.
Right.
So now we know that the Holy Spirit is active and available for every one of us. Right.
Such a key point. We know all the benefits that he can bring to us.
Uh, we know about the gifts and how important they are, how much they can add to what god wants to do in our life.
So let me ask about the difference between the the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Glad you mentioned that.
Well, If I had to choose, which thank god I don’t, but if I had to, the fruit is probably more important because people need to see the fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, kindness, meekness, gentleness, humility, self control.
Those are the things that when the Holy Spirit comes to live in us, he brings that fruit with him.
But it comes as a seed.
And so the word of god is called the water of the word.
It’s really interesting when you put it all together.
So a seed has to be watered, and it has to have sunshine.
S o n s h I n e.
So time with god, studying the word, causes that seed then to come into full bloom and to grow up and begin to not only be in your spirit, but start to fill your your soul.
You you think about loving people. You you think about being kind. You think about humility.
You you begin to recognize when you’re operating pride, and you know that’s not right, and you you want it to be right.
And then eventually, people will see those things in you And there’s nothing.
I don’t think that impresses is not the right word, but if if you wanna be a witness to somebody, there’s nothing that witnesses to them more than for them to see you change.
And and to see like a mean person become kind Mhmm.
Or a proud person become humble.
Yeah.
And that really To me, that’s the greatest change of all.
Mhmm. I love what you said in in the clip we watched earlier when you talked about how because that could feel really overwhelming.
And if this is all new to you, I need to accomplish the whole fruit of the spirit.
That’s that’s a lot. But how kindly he is to just like, pick a thing at a time, and he’s not changing all of you and giving you patience and joy and all all that at the same time, but he’s so gentle to say, at least for me, today, we’re gonna work on patients.
Yeah.
And let’s just focus on that one thing, and it’s not everything has to be figured out at one time because he just He leads us to each each thing he needs us to.
Mhmm. We like to work on joy a lot more than we like to work on patients.
The fun one, joy.
It’s fun.
But we need the patience
and the joy and the peace and the self control.
All of it. That All
of it.
Those are things that that, you know, I’ve found that I really have to study in the word to to help develop those those things, those gifts that that Gut gut is given that that seed of the fruit like you were talking about and and but we have responsibility to help cultivate fruits.
Gifts are given, but fruit has to be developed.
Right. Right. So one of the things is, like, every morning, and I’m so glad it’s just a habit now as part of part of what happens automatically almost is before I even lift my head.
It’s just you know, good morning, father. Good morning, lord. Good morning, holy spirit. And I need all of you.
I need you as a whole Right. The so much in my life.
And please let let the fruit of the Holy Spirit be strong and need a day help me because there are so many ways that that I really, really need that.
You know, it’s hard to say what my mouth would say otherwise.
You know, I I hate to even think of some of the alternatives.
So so just making that a daily habit, and and it doesn’t guarantee that I’m not gonna step in there with some self and make some pretty
Yep.
Pretty egregious mistakes along the way, but I have the benefit of not trying to do it all on my own.
That’s huge.
Yeah. My husband is, um, I call him a piddler.
He just, like, he just it just takes him so long sometimes to do stuff.
And I was waiting last night for him too.
I wanted to go out and sit in a certain chair in the living room, and he was gonna go up to his office.
He likes to watch sport. It’s his man cave up there, but he had eaten, and he was doing his few dishes.
And it just took him so long to do it.
And I went out and I’m like, when are you gonna get out of here?
And he’s like, I gotta get out of my own house. And he said, you are so impatient.
And that is probably still my greatest week I’m not impatient with god. I know how to wait on god.
I know there’s no point in trying to rush him.
He’s not gonna do it any faster than you want him to, but slow people are just hard for me.
So you can all pray for me that I can be really kind to slow people.
You throw me in on that one too. I’ll take those prayers, definitely.
You 2 make me walk fast. So Yeah. We all keep up with you.
I moved pretty quick.
You are fast.
Are are there any things that you would like to to, um, end this with as an encouragement?
Like, things that you’ve seen in your life that that you’re just so grateful for the Holy Spirit or even even a way that you would encourage someone to not be stressed or confused, but to allow god to do this in their life.
Well, one of the things I would say is if you if you don’t really know that much about what we’re talking about, it would be great if you got a good book.
And I said a good book Mhmm. On the Holy Spirit. You’re gonna need to study. Yeah.
You know, I don’t want you to be convinced just because we told you I study yourself.
Look at everything the Bible says about the Holy Spirit and being filled with the Holy Spirit.
Study what Paul says about the gifts of the spirit in Romans 12, I mean, in 1st Corinthians 12, and, you know, see for yourself what it says.
Mhmm. Yeah. Good. Well, as you’re walking this out, this is one of the most important things.
We’ve we’ve talked all through it, and it’s so great to hear other people’s experiences because we are so different to hear how real god is in your life to hear what the holy spirit has in store for you, but that’s not enough.
You gotta start walking into it, and we believe today in Jesus name that as you pray, as you seek god, he promises you in his word that as you seek him, you will find him.
Yeah.
When you seek him with your whole heart.
So as you’re walking it out today, we have more information for you.
We have a list of scriptures, different things that you can get at joycemeyer.org/ talk it out.
So much helpful stuff. Um, here’s an example, Luke 1113.
If you then who are evil, Joyce read this one earlier, but I think it’s so good.
Know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly father give the holy spirit to those who ask him?
A
great one.
Ask today. And I ask for more every day. I know you guys do too. We love you all.
Thank you so much for being with you. Um, for being with us.
With you.
Thank you for being with
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That’s where we win or lose the war with Satan. He said, all he gets the same. Thank you, sir.
He uses a lot
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