Podcast Introduction:
Welcome to the Jack Hibbs Podcast, where we boldly proclaim biblical truth, equip believers, and address today’s cultural challenges through a spiritual lens. Today’s episode is unlike any other. Get ready for a conversation that will challenge your thinking and stir your heart.

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A Special Guest: Charlie Kirk
We’re excited to welcome our good friend and special guest, Charlie Kirk. Since we met in 2020, we’ve witnessed God use Charlie in powerful and incredible ways. His bold voice and unwavering commitment to truth make him a national treasure.

Charlie shared how our ongoing encouragement, sermons, and text messages — even the funny ones dictated by Siri — have kept us connected. Whether he’s listening on the road or tuning in to our latest message, he reminds us how important it is to stand for truth in all seasons.

Charlie’s Unexpected Encounter with Gavin Newsom
Charlie opened up about his surprising podcast appearance with California Governor Gavin Newsom. Newsom invited him through his ex-wife, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who’s now part of the Trump team. Initially skeptical, Charlie agreed to meet in person. During their conversation, Charlie aimed to stand firm in truth and grace, even while Newsom tried to appear moderate and flattering.

Despite the optics, Charlie didn’t hold back. He confronted Newsom on critical issues — like the fairness of biological males in women’s sports — exposing political hypocrisy and defending the name of the Lord throughout the discussion. It was a strategic and spiritual challenge, not just a political one.

The Deeper Battle Behind Politics
Charlie emphasized that the real issue isn’t just policy—it’s spiritual warfare. Politics is a reflection of deeper values and worldviews. There are ultimately two worldviews: one rooted in Genesis 1:1 and God’s authority, and the other driven by the self-centered gods of modern paganism—narcissism, materialism, and secular ideologies.

He boldly described the modern Democratic Party as a vessel for paganism, warning that pastors who avoid political engagement are ignoring a crucial front in the spiritual battle for our culture.