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Jonathan Cahn: Standing for Truth in a Fallen Culture

Jonathan Cahn sits down on TBN’s Praise to share a message from his book, The Return of the Gods, about how our culture has forsaken its Christian heritage in favor of worshipping the enemy, and how we must stand for truth in our everyday lives!

“America was founded on prayer. Therefore, the removal of prayer from its public life was a central part of its fall from God. A nation that turns away from prayer will ultimately find itself in desperate need of it.”
― Jonathan Cahn, The Harbinger

When the gods were coming into the culture, you know, it again, it happened very subtly.
You know, when when it it came in when they came into America, thing.
Here in America, it was, you know, hey. Open your mind. Be open. Everybody do your own thing. Listen.
It was just to open the door to get these new things come in.
Once they’re in or once they’re in power, Then we they want the door closed.
Then instead of do your own thing, it’s do our thing and bow your knee.
And if you don’t confess, if you don’t celebrate with us, we’re gonna cancel you.
What happens is they want every knee to every tongue to confess and and join us, and and that’s what believers have to not do that because you know what?
When when the believers were being persecuted and under Rome at that time.
They all they had to do was offer up some incense to the to the emperor and just worship a guy all they do is confess it.
They said, no. We’re gonna stand for god no matter what. We have to be those same people.
You say that the return of the Odds is the most explosive book you’ve ever written.
Now you wrote the harbinger which sold over 1,000,000 copies and counting But you say this is the most explosive yet.
Why do you say that? What does the return of the god’s reveal? Yeah.
This is a mystery that affects everything that’s happening right now in our world, in our culture.
What if that behind everything we’re seeing, the changes of America, the the what’s happening to the children, what’s happening to the media behind that is an ancient mystery that goes back to the tablets of ancient mesopotamia.
What if the gods that we hear about, you know, gods that we think, okay. That’s fiction.
Well, that they are in one sense, but what if there’s a reality to them?
What if they are actually there are actually beings linked to this? And what it what are they?
Who are they? And what if they returned to our day now? What would happen?
What if they are the invisible agents behind all these changes that are taking place, taking place in the classroom, taking place on television?
Taking place on our computer screens, uh, taking place in the Supreme Court.
What if it lies behind things like the the sign of the rainbow?
Like like what’s happening to gender, what’s happening in everything that’s affecting everyone.
What if one of the principalities or gods actually, uh, actually manifested in New York City, not far from where we are right now.
Uh, what if that’s happening? And the the thing is, here’s the thing is it is happening. It is real.
It is right from the Bible.
It explains I mean, when people, uh, what we were talking before, when I first was sharing this, you know, the the one who was speaking to me said, is every this explains everything.
Well, we’re all dealing with it. Everyone who’s watching right now is dealing with it.
Every family is dealing with it. Every relative of that is dealing with it.
We are all dealing with it in our lives.
And so this, the return of the gods, is to remove the veil and to expose this that we can see because, you know, we can’t win if you don’t know what you’re fighting, you know, um, and to empower god’s people.
And we’ll we’ll be able to there’s so much to unpack.
We’ll be able to or give a taste of it, but I believe this is one of the most important things I could ever, ever bring forth.
Jonathan, they say the first rule of war is to know your enemy This is a spiritual war. Yes.
What is the mystery of the spirits? Number 1 and number 2?
The book is titled The Return of the Gods plural.
We know there’s one god, the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but there is something deeper behind, as you said, these
ancient demonic pagan entities. Yeah. Well, the Bible speaks a lot about the Gods.
You know, it says, who are who is like you among the gods?
You know, the lord says, I will execute judgment against the gods has a lot to say about that.
And so so what are the gods? Well, first of all, all over the world, there were gods.
I mean, all of the world, every culture. It’s kinda strange phenomenon was worshiping god’s. Every culture. So so why?
And what what is it? Why is it universal? Well, the Bible gives the answer.
The Bible says in the book of deuteronomy and in the Psalms says they worshiped or they even sacrifice their children to the gods, but the word it uses, the word the Shaddim, the Shaddim.
That that’s in the book. Like, what are they? The the word Shaddim means entities, beings, spiritual beings.
Now in ancient Babylon, they said they could be good or bad, but in the Bible says, no. No.
They’re only bad. So it’s it’s the shed demon. So it wasn’t just these Fignments of people’s imagination.
Now there was imagination and all, but it’s it’s it’s that word.
Now when it was translated by the rabbis into Greek, They chose the word dot, which we get the word demon from it.
And that is the the word that actually Paul uses when he says the same that he says what the Gentas, the pagans are worshiping.
What they’re doing, they’re actually worshiping the daymonia or the Shadeem. These entities behind the gods are entities.
So it’s saying is that that, again, not that the mythology is true, of course, about, but that that sometimes that, you know, the mythology of man could follow what these things are.
And these entities, demonic, can actually use the mythologies because what’s the what’s their point to bring worship away from god?
I mean, so you would expect this. So the Bible says there’s something very real going on.
So the question is what would happen if these things that were there in the world if they if they return, which which which we’ll get into.
Yeah. I mean, look, you had golden calves. You had idles made of wood.
Obviously, they’re not gods, Jonathan, but as you lay out in the book, There are spirits and principalities demonic Yes.
Spiritual influences behind these idols. Yeah.
Yeah. The god the gods were the masks.
I mean, that so when we say to god, so the the Bible speaks about this as entities.
So that’s the first piece of the mystery.
The next part is is that is that, you know, there’s a link in in the world between the gods and these cultures that worship them and spirit possession.
Because, actually, you’ll find that all over the world. You find that phenomena of they all describe possession. Why?
Because they’re given to the gods, if the gods are spirits behind them, they’re given to the spirits.
So when you look at pagan, a pagan world, you see all the signs of possession.
And the closer someone was to a god, like the oracles and the Priest and priests.
The more they they they manifested the science, classic signs of possession, you know, foaming, you know, shaking all that was part of Pagan worship.
But it’s not only that. It’s also that the entire culture can be possessed. An entire civilization can be possessed.
And that’s gonna be very important when we talk about what’s happening now, but that happened back then.
So you have you only have not only individual possessions, you have civilizational possession.
A nation can become possessed, and that’s what we’re gonna get into.
Well, I think of the Babylonians, the Sirians, the Romans, the Greeks, Jonathan, all these pagan deities, uh, that they worshiped.
But eventually, you lay out in the book that they were in the grip of this of this is really demonic possession of a culture, a society, a civilization, but eventually those gods departed.
That’s what reads the book is called the return of the gods.
That’s right.
Where did they return from? Where did they go? How did they eventually depart
Yeah.
From the ancient world?
Yeah. One answer, Jesus. One answer, messiah, and god, you know, in that in that he came into the world.
You know, now now the only, you know, the only part that wasn’t, you could say, wasn’t possessed is was Israel.
And when Israel turned away from god, they went into it too.
But even what we call Western civilization, our our quote civilization, that was possessed back then.
So what happened was god came. Messiah came.
He had the power of in the Greek, it says Ekballo to cast out cast out the spirits.
Well, that also means the gods too because the gods were linked to the spirits. You know?
And so what happened is when he sent the gospel into the world, they were going into the pagan world.
So you have a clash of god and the gods, the spirit and spirits.
And that’s why when you read the book of acts, what you’re seeing this clash you know, Paul is is followed by a possessed woman.
You know, there’s an out there’s an uproar in a city over the gods, and and so you have you have a clash.
You have persecution Now the war against Christians was the war of the gods.
They were told they were said, you know, worship the gods, and we won’t kill you.
You know, it was a war of gods.
In fact, the great persecution of Rome started by that oracle dispossessed woman in the temple gave the word to do it.
So it’s a war. So what happens with the gospel triumph? And the gods departed. The temples became empty.
They were gone. They were rich. So if the gods are departed, that also means the spirits were departed.
This was the greatest mass exorcism in the history of the world. Wow.
And every time the gospel came, that’s what happened. So you have this is the and it’s unique.
That’s why Western civilization is unique.
It was the only civilization that was exercised, but now the question is what would happen if they return?
And there’s actually a mystery that an Appparable that Messiah gave that actually unlocks the key.
And tell us about the house of spirits Yeah.
And why that’s so central to unlocking this mystery that you unpack in the book.
Yeah. Remember that the lord gave a parable.
And he said, uh, if a spirit departs from a man, it’ll go around roaming, looking for a place.
But if it finds no place, says, I’m gonna return to my house.
We’re talking about the guy, goes back, finds it all clean and and order and empty.
And so he says, you know what? I’m gonna bring my friends.
Goes out and it just brings 7 spirits worse than the first and comes in now since the man now the the ladder state is worse than the beginning.
The man is worse now. In being repossessed than he was before he even got cleansed.
Now when people look at this, okay, that is a a warning. Yes. You don’t turn back from knowing god.
Yes. But he says, so it will be with this generation. He wasn’t talking about just one man.
He’s talking about a civilization. And so when you take this to the biggest biggest application, you have a culture that, again, we said was possessed by the spirits and the gods was exercise.
West Resilization became excellent. Now here’s the warning. If that culture that has known god ever turns away from god.
If it ever turns back, the spirits will return to it.
The gods, the same gods that re or the spirits that represented by the gods will come back with that were cast out will return and they will return to repossess the house, to repossess the civilization.
Now think about America. Think about now what you wanna you wanna understand people saying what’s going on?
How this is so crazy? This is what’s going on.
And and the thing is that when it says when it comes back, it’s gonna be worse than before, when you look at civilizations that have turned from god like Russia was demonic, look at Germany, turn from god.
Look what happened. Well, now it’s happening to America and the entire Western world.
And to whom much is given, much is required.
The book, you just you just contain so much scripture, scriptural background here as well, Jonathan. It’s great.
Jonathan, if the Gods, these unclean demonic spirits, have indeed returned as you lay out in the book in great detail, how would they return in the modern era?
We’re we’re not necessarily seeing people worshiping golden calves, obviously, in idles of would, how would they return?
It seems much more subversive today.
They’re returning to a a civilization that has known god. You know, that that quote, a quote Christian civilization.
So it’s a whole different thing. Can’t come back.
First of all, can’t come back all at once, can’t come back saying, hey. We’re gonna mess you up.
Instead of coming back step by step by step. First by a little bit, uh, gentle.
And the thing is what’s gonna open the door is if that civilization starts turning away from god.
And when you can see the real marker is or the beginning of the 19 sixties, you start seeing the turning, putting god away, putting prayer away.
That is what’s gonna open the door.
And the thing is that the when you look at you know, which gods are gonna return.
Uh, well, the same gods or the same principalities that were in when Israel turned away from god, you know, because we’re in that power that they’re gonna return.
And and with Israel, there were 3 primary gods among others that were that that that epitomizes everything.
One I call in the book in the return of god’s called the possessor.
And you call these, by the way, the dark trinity.
Yes. It’s a trin that’s right. The dark trinity. Yeah. The first is the put called the possessor.
The second is called the enchantress, and the third is called the destroyer.
So these are the 3 primary gods that have returned as as look, you you mentioned rightly, Jonathan, beginning in the 1960s, a bit of a national back sliding
away from god really began then. Yeah.
Prayer removed in the schools, the so called sexual revolution. You dig into it in the book.
Yeah. Well, the first, yeah, first you open the door.
The door is turning robot, but when you open the door, the house is never gonna stay empty.
That’s what it’s saying. And so what happens, you have the first one called the possessor in Hebrew.
His name was baal or bail, which means the possessor or the lord or the master or the owner.
And what he did or this principality is he was the alternate substitute gods.
He was the god of the of turn away from god. He I’m gonna be your new god.
I’m gonna make you prosperous. And he’s the 1 or this prince Valley that drove god out out of the public square, out of the palace, out of the children’s education.
So what do you see in America?
Do you see a spirit that starts driving god out step by step, by step, start as small?
People said, okay. It’s taking prayer out. Look at where it has come because, again, you empty the house.
If we empty the house, you’re gonna something else is coming in.
And so what comes in is this spirit of bail.
Really the main pig indeed.
It seems
bail was the most prevalent in ancient times.
Yeah. He’s he later on, he’s actually associated with Zeus, you know, in the time of the of time of the Greeks and the Romans.
So he was the king of the kingdom like us. He’s the first one.
He’s like that first spirit that comes in. He don’t and and and then he brings his friends.
And so in the Bible, it says it says he caused Israel to forget god.
So so he so what’s happening is there’s a spirit that has caused America to forget god, to forget that it ever knew god.
You know, if you knew back then in the sixties where if people knew where it was gonna end up, you know, what what’s the thing is these are pagan gods or pagan spirits.
So if they come to a Christian nation, their mission is to take a turn a nation that is called Christian and turn it into a pagan nation, paganizing.
That is what we have been watching for the last half century.
When you’re saying what’s going on, that’s what’s going on.
It even says he caused he caused Israel to turn away from the commandments.
We literally have struck down the 10 commandments in America.
We’ve we’ve banned it the spirit of bail is in all these things.
We are watching we are watching this nation and this civilization becoming pagan.
And you have written many times, Jonathan, and really many of your books about the parallels between Israel’s trajectory with the lord and America’s with the lord are are shared destities in some ways.
So I guess it’s no surprise to you, obviously, that some of the same problems that plagued ancient Israel are now plaguing America.
Yeah. When a with a harbinger in the other books, it’s speaking about the signs that happen now.
This is speaking about the actual spirits that are in there and they’re in America now.
And and it actually goes deep because because the the process of bail taking a taking possession of a culture is that he that the the the it’s deep because for instance, in the pagan world, you had many gods.
You didn’t have one god. So you didn’t have one truth. You had many truths.
You have you can make your own you can make your idol. I created my own reality.
That is what we are watching when people says your truth. My truth.
If I say If I say I’m a tree, you have to accept that. Yes.
Because there’s no truth because that’s pagan. That is holy pagan.
I get and and when you also take away god, everything becomes god. Sex becomes god. Nature becomes god.
Ideology becomes god. This is behind wokeism. This is behind, I mean, even behind I won’t get into it.
We won’t talk. But in ancient mystery linked to our our addiction to computers. Computers are linked to this.
Uh, uh, virtual reality, New Age. All this is linked to bail.
And the pagan is the the paganizing of America.
19 sixties, the door was really open to this, Jonathan.
Did bail uh, the sign of the possessor physical sign Yeah. Did it manifest itself in America?
Yeah. Right near here. Yeah. Uh, you
know, right near we’re in New York City. Just a reminder.
Yeah. This is the one of the the signs of bail actually was a bull, a bronze bull.
All over all over the the all over Israel was the it was a sign and it was linked to, you know, they went to bail because they said, well, you’re gonna help us be prosperous.
You’re gonna help our fields Well, what happened is in a in the 19 eighties, a sign appeared right near here, they, uh, they put down.
They laid out it was a massive, massive, bronze bull, the sign of bail, and the sign in the Bible of a nation that once do god, and is now turned away from god and is now subject to to bail.
And right by Wall Street, by that financial debt, which is about prosperity, we call it a bull market.
That’s a bail market. You know, you know,
and so
and so and there and there’s so there’s actually I won’t go into it because we don’t have the time.
But even even a a part of Dale’s temple was recreated and erected right near where we are in New York City and in Washington.
We’re talking about the dark trinity. Yes. The possessor bail.
Number 1, the second member of this dastardly trio, the enchantress. Yes. Tell us about her.
Actually in in Kainanat mythology, she is known as the the wife or lover of bail, but she appears everywhere.
She appears in the Bible. As she’s called a start or or actually Ashtorath. Ashtorah. Ashtorah.
And you see bail and Ashtorah. They and then that order. Tahrath pulls. Yeah. Or where she yes. Yeah.
So first is bail, then comes Ashtara. And what was she? Well, she’s known as Ishtar as well.
She’s also known as when she went to Greece, she became aphrodite.
She became Venus, but it’s very dark, dark thing. She was the goddess of sexual immorality.
Sexuality, divorce from marriage. She was actually known as the great harlot, the prostitute goddess.
And so when she came comes into a culture, what’s gonna happen?
What what we we expect that as bail comes in, the turning from god first, then we would expect something to happen to sexuality.
A revolution. And that’s exactly what happens starting in the sixties. The sexual revolution starts. This is the power.
This is the the principality that will seek to possess a nation by turning the Christian sexual values, um, um, values of marriage, into pagan sexual values.
That’s exactly what we have been witnessing ever since. So this starts taking over our culture. It’s the second part.
And it goes to
the enchantress is is a goddess of prostitution Yes.
As
you describe in the book, John. Yes.
A goddess of drunkenness, even, and and many, many devices, but all coming back to to sex, promiscuity, and gender confusion,
and gender madness. Gonna get to that. Yeah. It’s gonna get to that. Yeah.
So she but it starts first with taking sex out of marriage. Remember, she’s the prostitute goddess.
So what does the prostitute do?
Take sex out of marriage, puts it into the marketplace, puts it into the cultured.
So we’re watching the sexualization of America and of the west.
And what that means is she was, you know, she was detrimental to marriage. So we’re watching marriage become weekend.
We’re watching marriages getting destroyed. Broken homes, broken children because that’s what it does.
But even I’ll give you a little mystery here that that and again, we can only touch on the things that are in the book.
But the the word for the prostitute back then in Greek is the word or porn.
We get pornography actually comes from this goddess. The first pornography was from her.
She put did you put the images of naked women She also the porn pornographic literature came from her.
We talk about the word erotic of happening to what to the world.
Well, well, that comes from the Greek word eros Eros was was a god who was born of this goddess.
It all comes back.
One last member of that dark trinity the destroyer before we go about a minute before the Frank Jonathan, who is the destroyer?
It always it goes right in progression.
First turning from god then sexual sexual immorality, then what happens is they Israel started offering up their children as sacrifices to the gods, particularly the god Molech.
And moloch is the destroyer. And so what what this is a pagan thing.
This was common in the pagan world, but what it means is if we are continually following these gods, If they are coming back, if we are being paganized, we’re gonna end up actually offering up our own children.
And like clockwork, it happens we legalize abortion. We have killed 60,000,000 children.
And we won’t have time to go into the mystery, but even when you look at the I bring it out in the book that the ancient ways of offering up the children to Mole and to
Yeah.
Are actually being reproduced right now without even people realizing.
I mean, it’s unbelievable that that people should know, Jonathan, what went on in ancient times and during bible times Yeah.
Malek, this idol, people literally would sacrifice their children. Yeah. It it the Bible called it passing through the fire.
Yes. Yeah.
I mean, and and you detail it.
Yeah. Yeah. It it’s the same way it happened with priests.
I mean, the the we have our own form of priests. Same way.
Actually, Actually, more poor children, uh, basically minorities were killed because of this god.
And it’s happening the same way here. It’s it’s following light clock. Work.
It it’s it’s you could say, how could they ever do that? We’re doing it.
We’re following the these are this is what the Gods do.
This is what the pagan world did, and that’s what we’re doing.
We’re gonna go back to a member of that dark trinity, Jonathan. Yeah.
The goddess, the enchantress, and her role in some of the gender mandates we’re seeing right now in the United States and the Western World.
Yeah. There was another side to this God is called ishtar or or or and that was that something strange.
She’s she says in in the top, I looked at the actually ancient inscriptions to see this.
Uh, and she says, I am a woman. I am a man.
It says in a hymn to this god, as it says, she’s the one who has the power to turn a man into a woman.
And a woman into a man. She is the one who does now.
Now it’s amazing because this has been this has been growing until we are right now where we are.
But it’s it all began also in the sixties. The first part is she’s going to seek to defeminize women.
She’s gonna seek to to mass utilize women. That and and that’s the spirit in the culture.
I mean, in every way, you don’t need a man. You compete with a man. That’s what she did.
She she was a goddess with actually masculine qualities to her, a fighter. She would she would compete with that.
So you see and which also tears up our marriage. So all this all this is all together.
And, you know, with that, she also she also, um, is going to feminize men.
And so and so what you would take away the legal.
There’s there’s a spirit that hates men and there’s a spirit that hates men if they’re leading or whatever it is.
And if a woman acts masculine, the the society applauds it, if a man asks acts masculine, then he’s he’s, you know, he is condemned.
That’s something that’s really strange, but that’s the spirit of the god is. That’s what she does.
And she’s been doing it. She’s doing it to children. She’s doing uh, uh, boys are being trained this way.
Uh, girls are being trained this way. In every way this has affected our culture.
That’s just the beginning of her of her transformation.
Well, children, Jonathan, at the age of four or five years old are being told today that they can choose their gender.
Yeah. Whether they want to be a boy, uh, or a girl.
This is this is this talk. And this is the spirit. And, you know, and it started out like that.
And now it it started out originally just saying, hey. You know, be more like this woman.
Now it’s come to this. You know, Uh, you know, she had a she had a priesthood.
The mist the priesthood of the goddess was this. Listen. It was men dressed up in her temple as women.
Those were the priests. And they would go around acting as acting as women.
And so she is the goddess of androgyny, not combining male and female, blurring the lines between that It’s part of destruction.
And that’s what she did. And so and so you you have now, again, men dressing up as women.
That’s the return of the goddess. Is that that used to have that in the pagan world.
You had it really central. Now
This is prevalent in the pagan world.
Yeah. Exactly. And now it’s it’s we don’t realize it’s been out, but now it was the goth school that that stopped us.
Now it’s back, and it’s all over. That is the spirit of the goddess.
And and not only that, well, not only that, and we talk about you were just alluding to it, transgenderism.
That listen. She was the god of transgenderism. She she actually kinda morphed between male and female.
She had an assistant that went to male and female back and forth.
And, actually, she, her priests, where many of them were surgically altered.
They actually were surgically altered, which affected their hormones.
And in fact, that all the things that are happening now, those were her priests.
And you remember we talked about the spirit, what happens when the spirit comes back, it’s worse.
Well, back then, that was the priesthood. She’s seeking to do this to an entire generation of children. To children.
That that’s how that’s how it’s even more than it ever was.
She actually had people dancing in front of her. Some of these transition people with with scalples celebrating this.
This is this is back because the gods are back.
The return of the gods also reveals ancient mystery. We’ve talked about New York City at
this time. This is good. Yeah. But we have another NYC component.
Break that down for us.
Yeah. Yeah. All this that we that we have that has transitioned basically, uh, America.
No pun intended. Yeah. Yeah.
America. Um, it the pride movement, the rainbow, all the the gender movement. All began in New York City.
And there was an event. It event had happened, right, nearby where we are, and it was basically, uh, there was a police raided a bar that was of of same sexuality.
And and there was a revolt or riot. They called it Stonewall.
Every parade you see goes back to that as a celebration of that.
But what is amazing is that when you look at that night, the all the signs of the goddess were there of her return was in that night.
And there’s so much that we I can only just touch on some.
This was 1969, that the summer of 69, there’s so much here. I’ll I’ll give you an example.
That the ancient texts say that the god is her where she kinda rules is in the ischem.
Is the bar or the sovereign. Stonewall is an Estone. It’s a bar. It’s a tavern.
That’s where that’s where she was. And that that’s where she reigned.
One of the signs when she comes into battle, when the Goddess comes into battle, she rides lions in her mythologies in pictures, lions, and she puts her head on the lie she puts her foot on the lion’s head saying I am am so powerful.
I’m on the lion’s head. The lion’s head. The first thing you would see will be the lion’s head.
Well, before this happened, this war, it was basically a a a culture war. Gonna happen.
With the goddess, the first thing that appeared on that street was a was a place called the lion’s head, right next to Stonewall.
Then Stonewall came. And and there’s something called, you know, like, we speak about in the ancient times that there were let priests or priestesses who would be filled by these spirits, you know, because of they be avatars in a sense, they’d be, well, there actually was someone.
The the there was a person who triggered everything that night and was a woman as a mystery 1, and she actually triggered the whole revolt.
And that woman embodied the goddess ishtar. She witt all the characteristics of that IshStar was called the storm.
It says you are the loud thundering storm. You are the storm. The woman’s name was storm.
Or a storm may. And and Wow. I mean, and it’s I mean, it there I’m just scratching the surface.
Yeah. Yeah. There’s something called the dance of the goddess that when she’s at war, she dances. There’s a dance.
In the middle of that that riot, there a dance breaks out.
And they actually the the the men who are dancing as women are actually actually chanting words that go back to the tablets of ishtar on that very night.
And by the way, they were attacking police during these riots.
We’re trying to set them up set the bar on fire with the police in there.
Another theme we see, unfortunately, in modern America, uh, police being targeted. Yeah. Yeah.
Take us back, uh, 2 ancient times, 2 biblical times.
And again, just so people know, this was not some fringe movement in those times. This was prevalent
Yes.
Throughout pagan society. Christians were an out fire at the time. Yes.
And a hated minority, to be honest, in the early days, especially the Roman empire.
Yes.
Uh, this was If people can understand what Jonathan is laying out, the dark trinity, the enchantress, the possessor, uh, this was the dominant force in the culture at that time.
The dominant, quote unquote religious force. Yeah. Yeah. At times. And it’s This was mainstream. Everything you’re laying out,
and it’s coming back. And that’s why we’re saying like, what is this? What is this? What?
All the things that were there are coming back.
And even, uh, even this, I’d even mentioned what the night of when this all began, when all the the stone wall, when all this began was was the exact was even the timing was according to the ancient Babylonian calendar.
It happened on the weekend of the full moon, happened by the summer solstice, happened in the days of the goddess.
I don’t without even going into detail, it all happened.
Actually, it the date of this was sealed was actually sealed on a day that according to the ancient Babylonian calendar says it’s a back day as appointed to cast a spell to cause a man to love a man.
That’s when it was all sealed.
And and so it it’s all I mean, it is it is it is, I mean, beyond anything that anybody could admit of.
And it’s people knew what they were doing.
We gotta pray for everyone, and we’re all in the same boat, but they didn’t know what they were doing, but this was the return.
This is all like clockwork the way this is happening.
Jonathan, this is your 7th book. They’ve all been runaway best sellers.
You specialize, and your anointing is in, I would say, unlocking ancient mysteries and making them relevant, showing the parallels to today.
Yeah. I believe this is, and this is the author of the harbinger folks and the harbinger too in the Paradigm, New York.
Well, many more I believe this is indeed your most explosive book.
Simple question, but I think important, why did you write this?
Why did you feel compelled to write this book right
now because we are every every single person who’s watching television today is being totally affected by this.
One way or the other, gonna have to has to deal with in one way or another.
And that is that that, you know, whether it’s family members, whether it’s sending your children to school, they’re being indoctrinated, whether it’s religious freedom because we’re we’re gonna get to in the in the in the I know in the next part about what the gospel has to do with Christians, what there’s an agenda here there for that.
So we need to be strong.
I knew when I wrote as a law, you know, lord, you know, to write this, you know, it it’s touching.
But you know what? If we don’t stand, if we don’t stand for truth and in love.
But if we don’t do it, this freedom we have is gonna be encroached and encroach.
The gods only have one agenda.
You know, and just like back then, you you you hit it on the head.
The Christians were out light, Lauley’s, they were they were, you know, on the fringes.
Well, that’s exactly what’s happening right now.
And yet the gospel is the power, you know, the power that that actually undid this.
And so that’s why there’s so much warfare just like there was, you know, this is like round 2.
You know, what happened in the Roman empire? We are now dealing with that.
And and so this is to armed believers to strengthen them to reveal, woah, you’re not just imagining.
This is actually happening. You’re kinda we were talking before the the program that even non believers are saying, well, this is Evony.
Well, it’s actually exact. It’s precise.
You know, we’re gonna see, I think in the next segment, how even even the decisions of the Supreme Court happened exactly according to the goddess’s calendar.
And we had a big one recently, obviously, but that was a good one. That was a good one.
It was a good one.
Yeah. So so yeah. And and even I’ll just throw a one last thing on it.
Even, you know, we talked about, you know, all these things came back to this thing called they called Stonewall and it celebrated the Stonewall Well, well, in the in the ancient writings of the god is, it says, Kholstagot, you are the stone that breaks the stone wall.
And that night, they were trying to break this on. So this is exact. It’s real.
God is these are real because god is real. And you we are in this battle.
And it says we don’t war against people. We war against principalities, but god wants you to be victorious.
We are not on the defense. We are to be on the offense.
And we are we are to be like the apostles work because they dealt with it just.
And they were victorious, and we need to just be equipped.
We need to I think you’d we think you’d rather know than not know.
And I don’t say this lightly, and it’s not exaggeration to say we are locked in a struggle right now for the soul of America.
Yeah. And and I believe and and we can be victorious in god. That’s all he’s looking for.
And I’m sure many people are watching who have people in their family who are very much taken by this taken by.
And it’s not only for believers. It’s for them too to wake up because, woah, I don’t want it.
I don’t want this.
Jonathan, can you unpack or kind of review what we’ve been talking about. Yeah.
People might hear the the title, the return of the gods and say, hey. There’s only one god.
And amen, by the way.
Absolutely.
But who are But, yeah, who are we talking about?
Why is it so important? This is what the Bible lays down very clearly.
That you have the gods of the nations, and they were false gods, false gods, but it says behind the gods were spirits.
Where spirits were were the shedim.
We talked about it being called in Hebrew entities beyond or the daimonia which we get the word demon from.
Evil spirit. They were behind because there’s a spiritual warfare. And you certainly in this realm, you’re gonna have that.
And so listen, the gospel came cleanse, you know, exercise the civilization, but Jesus gave a warning.
What happens if we ever turn away from god? Having known god, it’s worse.
To have known god and turn away for even for a civilization, it’s gonna be worse. The gods will return.
The spirits will return. To repossess the culture.
And that is, like, all the things you’re seeing, you’re saying, how could they do this? This is crazy.
How could they do this to children? How could they do this to this? It’s just crazy. It doesn’t stop.
It is this is what you’re watching. You’re watching a repossession of the ancient gods exactly what the Bible
It’s a reverse revival. I guess I could say
Well, interesting because what did we see?
We saw we saw a reverse exorcism, which was to exercise god from the culture.
And we we it was take you take god’s spirit out, other spirits will come in and people won’t even realize it, and you’re gonna have the signs of possession.
People are gonna be self destructive. They’re gonna mutilate themselves. They’re gonna offer up their children.
That’s the sign of possession. And so we are dealing with that, but we have a greater power.
But that is what we’re we’re dealing with right now.
Yeah. And individuals can be possessed as you lay out in the book, Jonathan, but as we talked about earlier, civilizations, cultures, nations, can be possessed.
You know,
Moses warned about this, and your book has scriptural backup throughout.
Yes.
Moses warned about this. He warned the ancient Israel you can go in one of 2 ways. Yeah.
Blessings or curses. Follow God or don’t follow God.
Jesus warned all of us, as you said, about the wayward way, and we seem to be heading down a wrong road right now.
There’s no middle ground in the end.
I mean, it may look like a middle ground, you know, and mix it in.
You know, first one, again, But the god’s Who
will you serve?
Yeah. Yeah. And and and when they first came in, it was kinda like, okay. Just be open. Be tolerant.
We’ll look at where we are now. This is all part of that.
Yeah. We’ve got the dark trinity as Jonathan calls them, the possessor, the enchantress, and the destroyer.
And Malawi may these names may ring a bell from your Bible. It’s all biblical.
Uh, what do these gods have to do This is an interesting
one.
Yeah. With the parades we see today in the modern world,
particularly one. And this goes back to the and and by the way, in the book, you know, because we’re we’re only able to touch on things here.
But the book in this part, she’s called the transformer because this is the goddess, but she’s the one who transformed.
She transitioned people. And by the way, you know, you you said something.
It was kind of like a a slip, but it wasn’t a slip. Or, actually, I said something.
You said, yeah, like a punt.
Well, actually, this is the goddess of transitioning transitions of men into women, women into men into their opposite.
But it what that what’s that is?
That’s a microcosm of what’s happened to She’s transitioning America into what it never was.
She’s transitioning a Christian nation into a pagan nation that would be at war with a Christian nation if if it had seen it now.
And so, you know, bail cause the nation or cause now the spirit of bail causes America to forget god.
The spirit of ishtar is causing America to forget America. So the the parades, she was the goddess of parades.
It says the people of Sumer Mesaba, they they parade before you ishtar. They parade before you.
Well, all these parades, they’re they they started from something called the ishtar Gates in Babala. Was the start date.
Start the parade. And and I won’t go into detail, but when we talked about all these parade today started in New York City, started from that event.
Called Stonewall.
Where we are sitting right now? Just a reminder.
Yeah. And Stonewall, actually, the the the front of it is actually actually has the same architecture as the ishtar gate.
And this is where the parade started.
And the thing is when you look at when I looked at the ancient inscriptions about the parades, It talks about men parading as women and women parading as men.
And and it was a it was a parade of crossing the genders and breaking barriers That’s exactly what happened then.
That is what’s happening now. And and during this time, she had a certain time during these parades, it’s like she would take possession of the culture.
We are watching that now. The same thing we had never seen it before. And you know what?
You know what? That it was the gospel came in. That’s when those parades stopped.
And so now that their back is a sign that the nation the civilization is turning away from god, and it’s returning.
We’re gonna talk more about the book, but real quick, why is it so important in the enemy?
The devil, he exists those. For him in this dark trinity, these demonic entities, these demonic spirit that you’re describing, why is it so important for them and their strategy to take down America?
Why must America be paganized essentially for their strategy to proceed.
Because number 1, America is the head of nations. You take down America.
What you do in America is gonna it’s not gonna say in America. It’s gonna touch the and it is.
And it is. All these things we talked about, whether it’s abortion, whether it’s this, whether it’s, you know, the stonewall, that began that or that that was championed by America across the world.
So that number 1, number 2, America was especially devoted to god. It was consecrated to god.
The enemy’s gonna say, I’m gonna take that same nation, and I’m gonna consecrate it to me.
And so through the gods, to actually America is now spreading.
Instead of the gospel is spreading pornography around the world, it’s chief. So all these things, so that’s why.
And America was also patterned after Israel.
So so if Israel turned away from god, so therefore, well, if we have America turn away from god, we can come back.
Founded by godly men with a great destiny in the United States, but,
yeah, John Winthrop, one of the parents who warned America don’t turn away from god.
Because you will be seduced by the gods.
That’s right. Yeah. There are many mysteries that you unlock in this book. Ancient mysteries.
You relate them to the modern day. One of them is the mystery of Junium. Yes. What is that?
She had the goddess had 1 month out of the year that she especially possessed the culture.
Was actually named after her lover, Tamos. But now when was it?
Well, the ancient I looked at actually Saint Jerome, and this is Ishhar by the way. This is Ishhar. St.
Jerome is actually writing about the festivals of the goddess and and all the and the processions and all that in the sun and says it happened in the month of Junium.
June. June is the month, and so June has now returned to the goddess.
And now the goddess is that’s why June has been taken over by this.
Because that’s what it was back then. And let me give you another one, Eric, you know, with this.
What is the sign that’s going all over the place?
We’re saying, you know, it’s a good sign originally, but it’s the rainbow. It’s taken over everything.
It’s in children’s uh, cereal boxes. It’s everywhere. It’s on on US Embassy Buildings.
I won’t go into it, but I will say in in the book, There is a mystery behind the rainbow that goes to back to the goddess.
It was her sign. I mean, it was god’s sign. She took it.
By the way, she’s also a principality who steals things from other gods. So she took this from god.
And now and actually, I’ll I’ll I’ll even tell you that every color has a mystery that goes back.
And I will say also something else.
What that actually what this sign actually means that if people have no idea what it really means.
If they did, I don’t know that they would be waiving it.
Or be wearing it, but it actually goes back to the goddess.
It actually is a sign of her possessing her possessing a culture.
Yeah. Ironically enough, Jonathan, in June 2022, we had, uh, Roe V Wade overturned.
Yes. That’s good thing.
Supreme Court. And we talked earlier about Malock. Yes. Uh, child sacrifice, and that was a good thing for sure.
I was there. I just wanted to mention, I didn’t share this with you before the show. I was there.
The day of that Supreme Court will be in DC at the Supreme Court.
Yeah.
And to say, if you use the word demonic, I don’t use it lightly.
There were howls essentially saying, you know, we
wanna kill children.
Yeah. It it was stunning. I was there covering it for TV and it stunning to witness firsthand.
Yeah. And interesting, Eric, because we were talking before the program, but I don’t share this a lot.
The day that this book was finished, when I finished the book, was June 24th.
The day that Roe versus way was overturned Wow. Which is an altar of the gods. You know?
And and now speak on the other side of this, There’s a mystery about the Supreme Court.
When you look at the Supreme Court decisions, uh, which have have overturned gender, you know, there’s 3 major ones.
1 is in 2003, which is the, basically, the normalization of same sex, you know, uh, 2nd was 2013.
The defense of marriage act was struck down And then finally, the the the striking data marriage, as we know, at 2015, the the time of the goddess was June, and the time of the constitution, especially was the end of June at the the time of the summer solstice.
The 1 in 2003 took place at the end of June at this exact time.
The 1 in 2000 13 took place at the end of June, month of Tamela’s time of the goddess.
The one the last one that overturning a marriage happened the same time.
In fact, they all happened on the same day.
June 26th, which is actually the same day that Stonewall was sealed. And you remember that night?
Remember when this happened all over? That night, there were rainbows all over the White House. Yeah.
Of the White House, it’s like the god of saying I possess this nation.
Well, that that was the 10th of Tammoves.
The 10th of Tamuz is that date on the biblical on the the Babylonian calendar says it’s appointed to cast a spell to close a mantle of a man.
That was the day that marriage was overturned that night. Uh, this is you could not make this up.
Do the gods and spirits you believe, Jonathan, actually determine the rulings. Well, you just laid it out.
The exact times are in it now, but the the Supreme Court rulings, some of the bad ones, we would say, there is an influence behind
this. It’s spiritual. Yeah. It’s like it’s like the harbinger.
It’s not like the people knew when they planted that trait.
They they didn’t or when or when Dachael spoke those words of judgment.
Didn’t know that, but it’s all according to the mystery. And and and the gods are dangerous.
Let me let me let me put this here. That is that, remember this. Keep this in mind.
They were cast out by the gospel. They were cast out by Christians. Okay.
So when they come back, they have a vendetta. They are focused on Christians.
Their focus on conservatives because they try to stop this thing from happening, but their focus, especially on Christians.
So as the as the gospel push them out, they’re trying to push out believers.
As the gospel marginalize them, they’re trying to marginalize believers. As the word of god, push them out.
They’re trying to to nullify the word of god and push it out of culture, push out.
So so this is a dangerous thing. That that there’s a focus on us. There’s a focus.
That’s why religious freedom is being threatened. That’s why the all these things are happening. This is round 2.
We’re the obstacle.
Yeah. Accrues. Exactly. Followers of Jesus are the main obstacle to the god’s plans coming to fruition.
Exactly in that. We have a
bull’s eye on our backs.
That’s right. And that is and yet we are to be over commerce. We’re gonna be congress.
And so and so in god, and so the and that is another reason for for and I knew I had to write the return to god’s now.
So believers could know it and could wake up and also rise.
What is the end game for the gods for these demonic entities? What is their ultimate plan?
Every knee shall bow, but to them, you know, what happened, you know, here’s the thing.
When when the gods were coming into the culture, you know, it, again, it happened very subtly.
You know, when when it it came in, when they came into America, same thing.
Came in America, it was, you know, hey, open your mind. Be open. Everybody do your own Listen.
It was just to open the door to get these new things come in.
Once they’re in or once they’re in power, then we they want the door closed.
Then instead of do your own thing, it’s do our thing and bow your knee.
And if you don’t confess, if you don’t celebrate with us, we’re gonna cancel you.
Notice it went from tolerance to canceling. There’s no accident.
The Bible says, what are those who call evil good and good evil?
You know, and so the first part is calling evil good. That’s sin. That’s saying sin is okay.
2nd part is calling god and the gospel and believers evil. Well, this is where it happened with every god.
What happened when Baill took power? He started he hunted down the prophets. That’s when Elijah came.
God raised up Elijah. You know, And so and this same thing with is Shar, it is what happens is they want every need to every tongue to confess and and join us at And that’s what believers have to not do that because you know what?
When when the believers were being persecuted under Rome at that time, They just all they had to do was offer up some incense to the to the emperor and just worship a god.
All they had to do was confess it. They said, no. We’re gonna stand for god no matter what.
We have to be those same people.
Yeah. And America is a target. Obviously, the ultimate prize for the Gods Jonathan, but this is a global initiative.
Yes. If they are working
on touching the
world, touching the world, for sure, what does this tell us about the time, the signs of the times, where are we on the prophetic time clock for these demonic spirits to return in such a major way.
Well, it’s amazing. You you say that because this is kind of bridging the gap between what you read about in the Bible about anti prophecy.
Men shall be lovers of self. They shall be haters of good.
They will persecute Christians, you know, Uh, that’s where the this is setting the stage.
We are raising a generation under the influence of the we’re raising a generation to be an to be enemies of god.
That’s what we’re doing. And and that’s why the all and and so that’s what will happen is if we do not if there’s not a revival, that’s the only hope America has.
Um, and if believers don’t stand for the gospel. Don’t spread the gospel.
If everybody’s intimidated and they don’t open their mouth and they don’t they don’t share god, that’s what the darkness wins.
You know, when when when the light goes out, the darkness comes in.
And so the thing is that that with that is that that it leads to persecution.
But then again, the Bible speaks about that. Now but here’s the thing. Is there hope?
I owe every book I I you know this. Every book I have ends with hope.
And what what is the hope? And the thing is that, listen, this could you can take it another way.
This is the most exciting time because you, you know, believers are praying.
I wish I could live in biblical times. Congratulations because you’re there. These are the same days. Listen.
Moses stood against the Gods of Egypt. You know, Elijah stood against bail.
You know, the Macabees stood against the Gods of the Greeks.
The the 1st Christians stood against the Gods of Rome. But these are these are biblical times.
You know, they don’t stop the gospel unless you stop. You know, that’s what the enemy wants.
He wants you to stop. He wants you to live on the defensive.
That we are to be we have the light. We have the answer. We’ve got the power of Messiah.
Messiah is stronger. It says who is like you among the god? There’s nobody like god. There’s nobody like Jesus.
The power to cast out. The power of light is stronger than darkness, but we have to rise.
We have to stand. We have to spread the gospel. We What’s the answer to the spirits?
The spirit of god lived by the spirit. What’s the answer to the gods?
The word of god, the power of god, much stronger This is an exciting time.
You know, you know, listen, what is the most exciting part of a movie? The last 15 minutes.
You know, be thankful that he chose us to live at such an exciting time.
God is entrusting us to live.
But what I would say is this that if there’s anything in your life, I’m talking to everybody out And that that is linked to the god, whether it’s pornography, whether it’s lust, whether it’s, you know, abortion, you have to get it out of your life.
Number 1, the the repent there’s no revival without repentance. So get that out.
Then ask for god’s cleansing and his power up and live all out for god for such a time as this.
This could be the most exciting time. But we need to rise to it.
So even if there’s darkness, you know, the the lights light up the world, that’s when it’s dark. You know?
So this is the time to do that.
And if you have people in your family who need to spread the gospel, spread the let them see this.
You know, whatever you need to do, that’s why I wrote it.